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Saturday, 2 January 2010

Lagi2 Tambahan <= Re: Banu Quraizhah dan Yahudi buta <= Re: Bls: [wanita-muslimah] : Pengakuan an Islamic scholar America; Islam itu adalah Secular,

 


----- Original Message -----
From: "H. M. Nur Abdurahman" <mnur.abdurrahman@yahoo.co.id>
To: <wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:53
Subject: Tambahan <= Re: Banu Quraizhah dan Yahudi buta <= Re: Bls: [wanita-muslimah] : Pengakuan an Islamic scholar America; Islam itu adalah Secular,

Lagi2 tambahan dari sumber lain => http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2125155,00.html
Iran's Jews reject cash offer to move to Israel
Robert Tait in Tehran
Thursday July 12, 2007
Guardian Unlimited

· Expats offer families £30,000 to emigrate
· Our identity is not for sale, say community leaders

Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, last year called the Holocaust "a myth". Mr Ahmadinejad had earlier said that Israel should be "wiped off the map".

Iran's Jews have given the country a loyalty pledge in the face of cash offers aimed at encouraging them to move to Israel, the arch-enemy of its Islamic rulers.

The incentives ranging from £5,000 a person to £30,000 for families were offered from a special fund established by wealthy expatriate Jews in an effort to prompt a mass migration to Israel from among Iran's 25,000-strong Jewish community. The offers were made with Israel's official blessing and were additional to the usual state packages it provides to Jews emigrating from the diaspora.

However, the Society of Iranian Jews dismissed them as "immature political enticements" and said their national identity was not for sale.

"The identity of Iranian Jews is not tradeable for any amount of money," the society said in a statement. "Iranian Jews are among the most ancient Iranians. Iran's Jews love their Iranian identity and their culture, so threats and this immature political enticement will not achieve their aim of wiping out the identity of Iranian Jews."

The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv reported that the incentives had been doubled after earlier offers of £2,500 a head failed to attract any Iranian Jews to leave for Israel.

Iran's sole Jewish MP, Morris Motamed, said the offers were insulting and put the country's Jews under pressure to prove their loyalty.

"It suggests the Iranian Jew can be encouraged to emigrate by money," he said. "Iran's Jews have always been free to emigrate and three-quarters of them did so after the revolution but 70% of those went to America, not Israel."

Iran's Jewish population has dwindled from around 80,000 at the time of the 1979 Islamic revolution but remains the largest of any country in the Middle East apart from Israel. Jews have lived in Iran since at least 700BC.

Jews are free to practise their religion the Jewish sabbath and have their own schools. Despite the absence of diplomatic ties with Israel, Iranian Jews frequently go there to visit relatives.

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Tambahan:
Ary tidak menjawab pertanyaan saya:
Apa Hamas bilang SEMUA Yahudi ?
Kalau Hamas bilang "menghapus dari bumi ini negara Israel", maka itu ada benarnya. Atau menurut ungkapan Ahmadi nejad "State of Israel to be dismantled". Israel dalam konteks Negara Israel itu tidak identik dengan Yahudi.

As a matter of fact, frankly speaking, tidak semua Yahudi setuju dengan negara Israel. Ini saya reposting dari arsip milis Wanita Muslimah, dari Ayeye (orang Yahudi) anggota milis ini juga, saya tidak tahu di mana ia sekarang.

----- Original Message -----
From: ayeye1
To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 05:30
Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Rombongan Yahudi anti-Zionis berkunjung ke Iran

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1139395563055&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Neturei Karta sect pays visit to Iran
By MICHAEL FREUND

A delegation from the anti-Zionist Neturei Karta sect is currently visiting Teheran to meet with senior officials and express their support for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his calls to eliminate Israel.

In a statement to Iran's official IRIB radio, the group called for "the disintegration of the Zionist regime" and defended the Iranian president, saying that it "is a dangerous deviation to pretend that the Iranian president is an anti-Jewish or anti-Semitic personality."

They added that they were "upset about the recent ploys, propaganda and tensions which have been created by the West regarding the statements of the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad about a world free of Zionism, since this is nothing more than wishing for a better world dominated by peace and calm."

On Sunday, members of the delegation, headed by Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, met with Iranian Vice-President Ahmad Moussavi, who also chairs the Iranian Committee in Support of the Palestinian Revolution.

At the meeting, according to the Iranian news agency IRNA, Weiss "praised the 'enlightening' statements of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad about the Holocaust and said the establishment of a Zionist government and occupation of Palestine are contrary to the injunctions of Judaism."

The doctrine of Neturei Karta says Jews cannot use human force to establish a Jewish state before the coming of the universally accepted messiah.

The group supports close ties with Arabs, particularly Palestinians, and rejects Zionism.

Ahmadinejad has been widely condemned in the West for asserting that the Holocaust is a myth.

This is not the first time that Neturei Karta has come to the defense of the Iranian regime. On October 28 of last year, the group issued a statement denying that Ahmadinejad was anti-Semitic after he called for the State of Israel to be dismantled.

Neturei Karta's leader, Rabbi Moshe Hirsh, considers himself a Palestinian Jew. The group has frequently participated in
pro-Palestinian activities, including a visit to the grave of Palestinian Authority chairman Yasser Arafat in Ramallah in November.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ary Setijadi Prihatmanto" <ary.setijadi@gmail.com>
To: <wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 08:40
Subject: Re: Banu Quraizhah dan Yahudi buta <= Re: Bls: [wanita-muslimah] : Pengakuan an Islamic scholar America; Islam itu adalah Secular,

Makanya,
coba Eyang bilangin itu ke Hamas dan kawan-kawannya!!
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HMNA:
Ente mengutip yang dibilangi Hamas itu dari mana ? Apa Hamas bilang SEMUA Yahudi ?
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Pingin tahu,
tahan gak Eyang dibilang antek-antek zionis,
padahal yang diceritakan itu al-haq dari Al-Quran!

Cuman bilang Amerika setan, zhalim dll. di depan Osama bin Laden sih enak.
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HMNA:
Saya mencerca Amerika dengan umpatan: zhalim, terroris sejati, state terrorist, Zionist Occupation Government dll cercaan TIDAK di depan Usamah.

Ibarat kata bidal Melayu lama" "Sepandai-pandai membungkus bau yang busuk, akhirnya tercium jua." Media massa dunia yang sudah wataknya tunduk pada kekuasaan zalim ini, berusaha sedemikian rupa untuk menutupi aib Amerika dari mata dunia. Tetapi situs-situs jihad membuka bungkusan busuk itu sehingga baunya tersebar jua.
http://waii-hmna.blogspot.com/2002/06/530-menguliti-strategi-amerika-atas.htm

fahamlah kita bahwa teroris sejati itu adalah AS.
http://waii-hmna.blogspot.com/2002/03/518-siapa-terrorist-sejati-dan-politik.html

Inilah sekelumit potret Thaliban menertibkan dan membangun kembali Afghanistan pra serangan membabi-buta dari states terrorists USA + UK. (UK = United Kimgdom, maksudnya kerajaan Inggris), yang selama ini belum terekspos secara menyeluruh oleh media manapun.
http://waii-hmna.blogspot.com/2002/06/527-potret-thaliban-di-afghanistan.html

Namun setelah penguasa Thaliban digulingkan secara democrazy yang tidak beradab oleh Bush administration, opium mulai ditanam lagi yang menghasilkan hingga 2700 ton setiap tahun. Bush administration terrorism dalam perangnya melawan "terrorist" membuahkan perdagangan opium yang kembali subur. "Kemenangan" Bush administration terrorism dalam perangnya melawan "terrorist" ibarat bayi yang lahir prematur. State terrorism dalam wujud Bush administration berupaya untuk dapat menguasai seluruh kawasan negeri-negeri Islam yang kaya minyak. Langkah Bush administration di Iraq dilakukan mengulang keberhasilannya mendudukkan Hamid Karza'i menjadi boneka sebagai penguasa Afghanistan. Penjajahan Bush administration terrorism atas Iraq tidak saja menebar maut bagi rakyat Iraq, lebih dari itu state terrorism AS juga ikut berperan dalam penyebaran minuman keras (miras) yang kian mengkhawatirkan. Sejak tahun 90-an peredaran miras di Irak sangat dibatasi sampai ambruknya rezim Saddam Husein pada April 2003 lalu.
http://waii-hmna.blogspot.com/2004/09/644-apa-kabar-afghanistan-dan-iraq.html

Selama 6 tahun terakhir sekurang-kurangnya dua orang wartawan telah syahid dalam upaya mereka untuk tetap dapat meliput mengumpulkan informasi "from the other side" (baca: USA + UK). Kedua orang wartawan itu adalah Mas'ud al Benini dan Suraqah al Andalusi. Mas'ud, pada bulan April 2000, dalam perjalan pulang setelah meliput medan jihad di Chechnya dicegat oleh pasukan beruang lapuk. Mas'ud bertempur sampai menemui syahidnya, semoga Allah menerima amalnya. Suraqah, pada bulan Dsember 2001, gugur menemui syahidnya oleh pemboman state terrorist Amerika di Tora Bora Afghanistan, semoga Allah menerima amalnya.
http://waii-hmna.blogspot.com/2002/10/544-bergerilya-melawan-cia-di-dunia.html

Pada hakekatnya politik pemerintahan AS sejak Perang Dunia Kedua adalah sebagai "Zionist Occupation Government". Lobi Yahudi sungguh berhasil menghunjam ke dalam Institusi Presiden AS.
http://waii-hmna.blogspot.com/2002/04/520-palestina-vs-amerika-serikat-israel.html

Pemberitaan American Zionism (amzi) pada permulaan Perang Teluk Jilid II, bahwa 3 helikopter yang jatuh itu karena kecelakaan, itu adalah manipulasi berita. Janji state terrorist Amrik untuk hanya menghantam sasaran-sasaran militer dan instalasi penting Iraq, dengan tidak mengenai penduduk sipil utamanya anak-anak dan perempuan, adalah omong-kosong belaka seperti yang telah terjadi di Afghanistan sebelumnya.
http://waii-hmna.blogspot.com/2003/03/568-perang-komunikasi-al-jazirah-versus.html

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ary Setijadi Prihatmanto" <ary.setijadi@gmail.com>
To: <wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 18:47
Subject: Re: Banu Quraizhah dan Yahudi buta <= Re: Bls: [wanita-muslimah] : Pengakuan an Islamic scholar America; Islam itu adalah Secular,

So Eyang,

Janganlah Eyang menggarami laut.
YOU DON'T NEED TO TELL ME, because I already know...

Bilang itu ke Hamas dan teman-temannya yang meyakini bahwa Yahudi harus dimusnahkan,
dan bahwa itu sesuai dengan Al-Quran..
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HMNA:
Yang bilang itu Hamas, bukan Al-Quran. Lihat yang telah saya tulis di bawah: Tidak ada perintah dalam Al-Quran untuk memusnahkan Yahudi...

I have done it, how about you?
Qulil Haq Walaw Kaana Muran..
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HMNA:
Ente bukan laut ! Harusnya Qulil Haqqa Walau Kaana Murran
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