Begitu simpel? Apakah kalau Taliban kembali menguasai
Afganistan nasib perempuan di san akan jadilebih bagus?
Biarkan Afgan mengatur dirinya sendiri, tetapi Afgan yang
mana? Sepanjang yang menentukan kaum laki-laki, nasib
perempuan ya akan sama saja. Itu inti dari keluhan Ann
Jones.
KM
----Original Message----
From: linadahlan@yahoo.com
Date: 03/10/2010 7:43
To: <wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com>
Subj: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Perang, Damai, dan Perempuan
Tentara Koalisinya cabut ajah dari Afghan dan biarkan
Afghan mengatur dirinya sendiri. Ntu kalo Ann Jones peduli
ama nasib pere di sana. Dimane-mane juga yang lemah yang
jadi korban.
http://www.antaranews.com/berita/1280125033/dokumen-
rahasia-perang-afghanistan-bocor
wassalam,
--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, Dwi Soegardi
<soegardi@...> wrote:
>
> Wawancara dalam acara tv Democracy Now! dengan Ann
Jones, jurnalis
> yang meliput perang Afghanistan sejak 2001:
>
> ...... war is a guy thing. Men fight with each other.
Then they sit
> down at the table, negotiate some kind of power sharing
agreement, and
> go on jockeying for that power relationship as they rule
the country.
> But all the while, they go on raping, murdering,
displacing women and
> children, so that when men end war and say, "Now we have
peace," war
> is not over for women. The war against women goes on, to
such an
> extent that today, if you look at the demographics, we
are short 60
> million women in this world who have been killed and
lost in war. (Ann
> Jones, "War Is Not Over When It's Over: Women Speak Out
from the Ruins
> of War.")
>
> Working with the International Rescue Committee, we gave
digital
> cameras to women and asked them to photograph the
blessings and the
> problems in their lives. It was really a project to
encourage them to
> begin to articulate their own situation and speak up in
their own
> villages and communities on behalf of their own
interests. And the
> women were amazing. They did fantastic work. They spoke
up very loudly
> in their own interests.
>
> And what they gave us, really, was blueprints for peace.
What they
> addressed were the problems of getting safe water,
getting safe access
> to their fields to work, getting education for their
children, getting
> healthcare, getting places for community members to
meet. In other
> words, the women are concerned about the future of their
families and
> their communities living a peaceful life. And this, it
seemed to me,
> was such important support for what the UN has been
saying for a
> decade now, that you will not get durable peace anywhere
in the world
> in the aftermath of conflict unless women are involved
every step of
> the way. And that's exactly what we are not seeing in
Afghanistan
> today.
> (Ann Jones, "War Is Not Over When It's Over: Women Speak
Out from the
> Ruins of War.")
>
> Dua hal tentang perang (dalam kasus ini perang
Afghanistan)
> 1. laki-laki berperang, perempuan jadi korban. Ketika
laki-laki
> berhenti bertikai dan duduk di meja perundingan,
> perang terhadap perempuan tidak ikut berakhir.
Penderitaan mereka
> berlanjut dan mereka tidak pernah diajak untuk
mengupayakan
> perdamaian.
>
> 2. ketika perempuan diberi kesempatan untuk bertindak,
mereka
> melakukan hal-hal luar biasa:
> - pengadaan air bersih, pembuatan jalan ke sawah/ladang,
pendidikan
> anak, kesehatan, hingga sarana untuk pertemuan
masyarakat ........
>
> Masihkah soal Perang dan Damai dipercayakan kepada laki-
laki?
>
> Baca lengkapnya (atau lihat videonya) di
> http://www.democracynow.
org/2010/9/30/ann_jones_on_war_is_not
>
> Ann Jones on "War Is Not Over When It's Over: Women and
the Unseen
> Consequences of Conflict"
>
> Ann Jones has spent much of the past nine years in
Afghanistan working
> as a journalist, photographer and humanitarian aid
worker. She has
> focused largely on the impact the war has had on the
women of
> Afghanistan. Her new book is War Is Not Over When It's
Over: Women and
> the Unseen Consequences of Conflict. [includes rush
transcript]
>
> Filed under Afghanistan
>
> Guest:
>
> Ann Jones, writer and photographer. Her new book is
titled War Is Not
> Over When It's Over: Women Speak Out from the Ruins of
War.
>
> JUAN GONZALEZ: In Afghanistan, President Hamid Karzai
has unveiled a
> seventy-member peace council that the Afghan government
and the Obama
> administration hope will broach talks with the Taliban.
But human
> rights groups have criticized Karzai for including
former warlords,
> suspected drug traffickers, and Taliban fighters on the
commission.
> Rachel Reid of Human Rights Watch said, quote, "Many of
these men are
> unlikely peacemakers. There are too many names here that
Afghans will
> associate with war crimes, warlordism and corruption."
> McClatchy Newspapers reports members of the so-called
peace council
> include Abdul Rab Rasul Sayyaf, who's been implicated in
the deaths of
> thousands of civilians. Another peace council member is
Maulvi
> Qalamuddin, a former Taliban deputy minister who oversaw
the closure
> of girls' schools and the flogging of women who failed
to cover
> themselves in a burqa.
>
> AMY GOODMAN: Human rights groups have also questioned
why more Afghan
> women have not been named to the council. Of the seventy
members, just
> six are women.
> Our first guest today, Ann Jones, has spent much of the
past nine
> years in Afghanistan working as a journalist,
photographer and
> humanitarian aid worker. She's focused largely on the
impact the war
> has had on the women of Afghanistan. In 2006, Ann Jones
wrote the book
> Kabul in Winter: Life Without Peace in Afghanistan. Her
new book is
> called War Is Not Over When It's Over: Women and the
Unseen
> Consequences of Conflict. It's just been published.
> We welcome you to Democracy Now!, Ann Jones.
>
> ANN JONES: Thank you.
>
> AMY GOODMAN: Ann, first start by talking about what you
last saw in
> Afghanistan when you were there—you're embedded in
Afghan communities,
> you're embedded in the US troops—and this latest news of
the so-called
> peace council that President Karzai has established.
>
> ANN JONES: Well, I think it's typical of what has
happened, from the
> beginning, in the exclusion of women. Women have fought
very valiantly
> to be included in peace processes, and they have gone
repeatedly to
> Karzai. And he has made promises over and over again,
but he's always
> reneged on his promises to include them in various
councils. He has
> been instrumental in implementing legislation that
really deprives
> women of rights that they are guaranteed under the
constitution. And
> to have six women on this council is just another, you
know, finger
> poke in the eye. It's a complete incident of tokenism.
And to have
> someone like Sayyaf on the council, who, as head of the
Wolesi Jurga,
> the lower house of the Parliament, is one of the chief
intimidators of
> women, is a complete insult to women.
>
> JUAN GONZALEZ: Well, one of the things that you've
mentioned in some
> of your writings, you said in one article, "Our
government complains
> that the Karzai administration is corrupt, but the
greater
> problem—never mentioned—is that it is fundamentalist.
The cabinet,
> courts and Parliament are all largely controlled by men
who differ
> from the Taliban chiefly in their choice of turbans."
>
> ANN JONES: Yes, that's exactly right. And, of course,
these are the
> men that the United States put in power at the Bonn
conference. They
> were our allies all through that proxy war against the
Soviets. Our
> thinking in those old days was that any devout religious
people must
> be good allies in the fight against what we used to call
"godless
> communism." So we allied ourselves with completely the
wrong people,
> and we've stuck with them all the way through. And we
installed them
> as the government that we now support. And it partly—I
think it
> largely explains the bind that we're in now, because
we're supporting
> a government that actually stands in opposition to many
of the
> principles we pretend to be supporting.
>
> JUAN GONZALEZ: And what is the impact of this at the
village or town
> level among—on the Afghan people, in the coverage that
you've done
> over the last few years?
>
> ANN JONES: Well, in fact, change has not reached most of
the villages,
> and the Karzai government does not extend much outside
the capital.
> So, what is felt in outlying areas is more the impact of
the presence
> of foreign troops in many parts of the country. And as
you know,
> thousands upon thousands have been displaced and are
living as
> internal refugees.
>
> AMY GOODMAN: Your experience embedded in the troops in
Afghanistan,
> what it was like?
>
> ANN JONES: I was embedded in the—in Kunar province on
the Pakistan
> border, the area in which so much trouble is occurring
today and in
> the last few days. And at that time, probably the most
important thing
> I learned from the commander was that he was not
fighting a war of
> counterinsurgency, as we say we are doing. He was
fighting
> conventional war, because he was being hit by a
surprising force
> coming over from Pakistan. He had served on that border
six years ago
> and never expected to face the kind of opposition he was
facing last
> summer. He had lost many men in the first weeks that he
was there.
> Meanwhile, all the public policy and press attention was
on the south,
> on Kandahar, where the US was organizing for this great
push. And the
> east was totally neglected. And as we see now, that's
where this
> problem is growing.
>
> JUAN GONZALEZ: And in your new book, War Is Not Over
When It's Over,
> what do you mean in terms of the title and what you
attempted to tell
> in terms of various wars that the United States has been
involved in?
>
> ANN JONES: What I'm trying to suggest is that war is not
what we think
> it is, when we hear all these reports about soldiers and
generals and
> strategies. War includes the whole population. War is
fought on
> civilian ground. And in all modern wars, civilians are
the primary
> casualties of war, much more so than soldiers. And we
ignore that
> completely.
> Also, war is a guy thing. Men fight with each other.
Then they sit
> down at the table, negotiate some kind of power sharing
agreement, and
> go on jockeying for that power relationship as they rule
the country.
> But all the while, they go on raping, murdering,
displacing women and
> children, so that when men end war and say, "Now we have
peace," war
> is not over for women. The war against women goes on, to
such an
> extent that today, if you look at the demographics, we
are short 60
> million women in this world who have been killed and
lost in war.
>
> AMY GOODMAN: Give us examples in the different places
you have covered.
>
> ANN JONES: Well, for example, the Congo, which is very
much in the
> news now, where mass rape has been used as a technique
of war for
> years now, for a decade or more. And thousands of women
are raped over
> and over again, gang raped, not merely to persecute the
women, but to
> disrupt families, to disrupt villages, to displace whole
populations,
> so that the men who are running the war have free access
to the
> natural resources, the stuff that goes into our cell
phones and
> computers, and that pays for their wars. So women pay
the highest
> price in that war.
>
> JUAN GONZALEZ: I'd like to ask you about one woman that
became the
> front page of Time magazine in August, Bibi Aisha, the
young Afghan
> woman who was pictured, her face mutilated, with the
headline "What
> Happens if We Leave Afghanistan." You've been
particularly critical of
> that story and how the media have manipulated it. Could
you talk about
> that?
>
> ANN JONES: I was very concerned about the exploitation
of that
> personal family tragedy in order to make a case for
keeping American
> troops in Afghanistan and continuing this war, in which
so many
> Afghans have suffered. Bibi Aisha's case was not
uncommon. Her
> particular mutilation has been her nose and ears being
cut off. There
> are four cases of it reported this year by the Afghan
Independent
> Human Rights Commission. This, after Americans have been
protecting
> Afghan women for eight or nine years in Afghanistan.
This happens to
> be the way some Pashtun families treat women in order to
keep them in
> servitude to the family. We are not going to change that
by the
> presence of troops, and we're not going to stop it by
the presence of
> troops.
>
> AMY GOODMAN: Can you tell us her story, though, and how
you feel it
> was misrepresented, in being on the cover, Time's case
for why the US
> is there?
>
> ANN JONES: Mm-hmm. Bibi Aisha ran away from her parents-
in-law's
> house. Her husband was absent elsewhere in doing some
kind of work or
> looking for work. She was treated as a servant and
physically abused
> all the time. She ran away. Her father-in-law caught up
with her and
> did this mutilation. The Time story amplifies that,
saying it was done
> under orders by Taliban commanders and so on. That is
not the story I
> heard from Bibi Aisha when I talked with her. But—
>
> JUAN GONZALEZ: And you spoke to her before this Time
story had ever come out.
>
> ANN JONES: I spoke to her several weeks before, and
other journalists
> have spoken to her, as well, and have reported the
mutilation, but not
> this supposed instruction of the Taliban to do this. So
I think the
> story changed in some way. How that happened, I don't
know. This young
> woman was deeply traumatized, and we know that people in
that
> circumstance have selective memory or repressed memory,
and maybe it
> changed later. I don't know. But my quarrel is with the
news media
> that took that personal tragedy and used it for this
political
> manipulation. And even the story in that issue of Time
about what's
> going on in Afghanistan today was much more nuanced and
was warning
> against the possibility of women being sold out in
negotiations with
> the Taliban. That is a very real concern that we need to
be
> addressing, and that was completely ignored in the
attention paid to
> this particular horrifying photo.
>
> AMY GOODMAN: We're talking to Ann Jones. She has a new
book; it's
> called War Is Not Over When It's Over: Women Speak Out
from the Ruins
> of War. Can you talk about your camera project, giving
cameras to
> women to document war and the effects of it on their
lives?
>
> ANN JONES: Yes. Working with the International Rescue
Committee, we
> gave digital cameras to women and asked them to
photograph the
> blessings and the problems in their lives. It was really
a project to
> encourage them to begin to articulate their own
situation and speak up
> in their own villages and communities on behalf of their
own
> interests. And the women were amazing. They did
fantastic work. They
> spoke up very loudly in their own interests.
> And what they gave us, really, was blueprints for peace.
What they
> addressed were the problems of getting safe water,
getting safe access
> to their fields to work, getting education for their
children, getting
> healthcare, getting places for community members to
meet. In other
> words, the women are concerned about the future of their
families and
> their communities living a peaceful life. And this, it
seemed to me,
> was such important support for what the UN has been
saying for a
> decade now, that you will not get durable peace anywhere
in the world
> in the aftermath of conflict unless women are involved
every step of
> the way. And that's exactly what we are not seeing in
Afghanistan
> today.
>
> JUAN GONZALEZ: Well, you've been going back and forth
now since 2002
> to Afghanistan, so you've seen the war when it was
George Bush's war
> and now when it is Barack Obama's war. Have you seen any
difference in
> the way the war is being carried out on the ground?
>
> ANN JONES: Well, now American troops are much more
involved, of
> course, because, as we know, George Bush neglected the
Afghan war,
> busying himself elsewhere. So, American troops are much
more in
> evidence now, much more active, causing far more
civilian casualties.
> And since the Obama surge, if we can call it that, the
civilian
> casualties have gone up about 25 percent. Six thousand
were killed
> last year. The number is likely to be higher now.
Thousands more have
> been displaced, so that I think the civilian population
is suffering
> perhaps even more now than they did during the Bush
years. And
> certainly more and more Afghans outside the capital are
saying that
> conditions are worse for them now than they were before.
Within the
> capital, there is still an island of relative security,
although it's
> really a fortified city now, so that many within the
city are still
> arguing for the presence of American troops to protect
them. But I
> think when you go outside the city, you get a very
different story.
>
> AMY GOODMAN: Ann Jones, we want to thank you very much
for being with
> us, writer and photographer. Her new book is called War
Is Not Over
> When It's Over: Women Speak Out from the Ruins of War.
>
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