Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Perang, Damai, dan Perempuan

wah dah kuno Bah artikelnya :-(

lagian Sayid Rahmatullah Hashemi sudah enak-enak jadi mahasiswa di Amerika,
coba aja suruh jadi Taliban lagi .....

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 10:36 PM, H. M. Nur Abdurahman <
mnur.abdurrahman@yahoo.co.id> wrote:

>
>
> "The Taliban Are Well Liked"
>
> A Japanese doctor's up-close observations contradict overseas reports
>
> By MUTSUKO MURAKAMI
>
> Thursday, October 18, 2001
> http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/daily/foc/0,8773,180342,00.html
>
> Japanese doctor Tetsu Nakamura works with leprosy patients and refugees in
> Afghanistan and Pakistan. It's a job that keeps him in touch with the raw
> reality of life in that troubled country. And he says that from what he has
> seen, the Taliban are being wrongly portrayed internationally. "There's
> something wrong with the media reports," he says. "This talk of the Taliban
> being vicious and disliked doesn't fit with reality." Nakamura says the
> fundamentalists have wide support from the population, particularly in rural
> areas. "Otherwise, how can they rule 95% of the country with only 15,000
> soldiers?"
>
> Comment : Ini yang tidak disadari, atau sengaja ditutupi oleh banyak media.
> Sebab tidak lah mungkin sebuah pemerintahan dapat bertahan bila cara -cara
> pemerintahannya tidak berkenan di hati rakyatnya. Dan kalau mau mereka dapat
> melawan Taliban jika Taliban ini memang biadab, sebab Taliban Cuma punya
> 15000 tentara.
>
> Villagers around Nakamura's Peshawar base hospital and 10 clinics in both
> northwestern Pakistan and eastern Afghanistan were pleased to see peace
> established under Taliban rule, he says. The Pushtun people, who make up
> two-thirds of the Afghan population, can accept strict Muslim codes because
> they have lived by them all their lives, he says. Women are not
> deprived of education or jobs, as far as he can see. In fact, half the
> local doctors at his clinics are women.
>
> Comment : Sekali lagi, ini adalah dokter dari Jepang lho, yang kemungkinan
> beragama Shinto. Dia sendiri mengatakan bahwa setengah dari dokter local di
> kliniknya adalah perempuan. Jadi ? Tuduhan bahwa wanita di Afghan tidak
> boleh bekerja itu fitnah dong ? dan orang - orang yang ikut menyebarkan juga
> melakukan fitnah.
>
> So why are the people of the capital, Kabul, reportedly hoping to see the
> Taliban overthrown? "The Taliban may act differently there," he told me when
> we met recently in Tokyo. "They're obliged to fix the corrupt urban life.
> The people most vocal in criticizing the Taliban are upper-class Afghans who
> have been deprived of their privileges." Nakamura's words
> reminded me of news footage I have seen several times since the attacks on
> New York and Washington. Shot by French journalists in Afghanistan, it
> showed Afghan women speaking critically of the Taliban. Significantly, they
> are dressed in shiny silk-like costumes, with large rings on their fingers.
>
> Comment : Ini tidaklah mengherankan. Pengungsi Afghan yang ada di Wisma
> Palar bogor, tidak disenangi oleh rakyat Indonesia sekitarnya. Menurut para
> pengurus Wisma Palar, Pengungsi dari Afghan itu rewel, sebab untuk mandi,
> mereka sering beralasan, air nya jorok, tidak bisa tidur karena banyak
> nyamuk, sampai kadang - kadang seprei yang tidak rapipun jadi permasalahan
> bagi mereka. Ciri - cirri orang Kaya. Terus, mereka membayar biaya pelarian
> dari Afghan itu, mereka mengeluarkan biaya sekitar 5000 sampai 25000 US
> Dollar. Mungkinkah orang - orang Afghan yang miskin punya uang sebanyak itu
> ? Jadi kloplah dengan cerita doctor dari jepang tsb, pantas saja.
>
> Nakamura, 55, says the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance are not the freedom
> fighters some journalists describe them as. Villagers are frightened of them
> because they are violent and cruel, he says. They execute innocent people in
> horrific ways, though not in public as the Taliban do as a warning to
> others.
>
> Comment : Ya, itu pasukan Aliansi Utara itu didukung oleh Komunis, terutama
> persenjataannya. Tapi mereka tidak bisa mengalahkan Taliban, selain tidak
> disenangi oleh Rakyat Afghan , mereka juga tidak punya keberanian untuk
> melawan Taliban. Bahkan mereka menunggu dulu US dansekutunya membersihkan
> garis depan Taliban dengan bom, supaya mereka dapat melaluinya dengan
> tenang, tanpa ketakutan. Amerika salah besar menggunakan Aliansi Utara ini.
>
> Nakamura works for Peshawar kai Medical Services, a Japanese aid agency
> based in Fukuoka City that has been operating in the Peshawar district for
> 17 years. He first visited the area as an alpinist when he was still a
> medical school student in Fukuoka. Shocked by the lack of medical care in
> the area, particularly for leprosy patients, he volunteered to work at a
> local hospital in l984. He says: "I spent most of my time not in straight
> medical work but in trying to understand my patients, their lifestyles and
> values -- what makes them weep or what matters most for them. "Luckily, I
> can eat anything and sleep anywhere," he grins.
>
> Comment : So, jadi tidak ada toh pemaksaan dari Taliban itu ?
>
> Nakamura has seen foreigners visiting Afghanistan and returning home to
> criticize the Muslim culture -- from a Western perspective. These people may
> be "heroes or heroines in London or New York," he says, "but they contribute
> nothing to the welfare of Afghans." As for suggestions the Taliban have cut
> the country off from the world, Nakamura says the Afghans are perhaps better
> informed than the Japanese, as they listen daily to BBC radio in their own
> language.
>
> Comment : jadi yang katanya Taliban melarang informasi itu juga tidak ada
> toh ? Bahkan Nakamura sendiri bilang bahwa mungkin Afghan lebih baik
> mendengar berita dari pada rakyat Jepang sendiri, sebab mereka mendengar
> radio BBC kok dalam bahasa mereka. Dan , tentu saja, usaha US yang
> berdasarkan informasi yang salah, yang akan membuat stasiun berita Free
> Afghanistan itu buang buang uang saja. Sebab toh Afghan sendiri sudah well
> inform dari BBC maupun AL Jazeera. Intelijen Amerika kudu di perbaiki lagi
> tuh.
>
> The doctor's greatest concern is the fate of millions of starving refugees
> in and around Afghanistan. Over one million of them are suffering from
> hunger, he says, while up to 40% are bordering on starvation. He thinks 10%
> could die during the winter. Nakamura and his staff stopped focusing
> exclusively on leprosy in the l980s as they had so many refugees to deal
> with, many suffering from malaria, diarrhea, infections and fever. Severe
> draught in recent years created hundreds of thousands of refugees. And now
> the American bombing and the fear of an invasion has brought more. His aid
> agency helps to dig wells not only to provide water but also for irrigation
> for farms, so that the refugees can return to their villages.
>
> Comment : Tapi Taliban dulu pernah minta bantuan ke PBB untuk membantu para
> pengungsi, tapi tidak satu sen pun di keluarkan PBB untuk menolong rakyat
> Afghan, tapi begitu rencana renovasi patung Budha itu, jutaan dollar AS
> dikucurkan oleh PBB untuk renovasi tsb. Bayangkan, PBB lebih mementingkan
> patung itu daripada penderitaan Afghan ? Pantas, Mullah Omar kemudian marah
> dan membom patung tersebut.
>
> Back home in Japan temporarily and thinking of his base area in Pakistan
> and Afghanistan, Nakamura says: "It's all like a mirage far off in the
> desert." He fondly recalls the red-brown soil of Afghanistan fields, the
> villagers sharing their joy about water from newly dug wells, and the
> friendly faces of Taliban soldiers helping villagers. "I have one simple
> question," he says. "What are the big powers trying to defend by attacking
> this ailing, tiny country?" It's a good question.
>
> Comment : Katanya sih disana ada Emas dan Minyak yang belum diekspolarsi
> dok. Mungkin saja ada udang di balik bakwan.
>
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>
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>
> http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/afghan/speech.html
>
> Roving Afghanistan Ambassador Sayyid Rahmatullah Hashemi's Speech at The
> University of Southern California on March 10, 2001
>
> Allah says:
> Yaa ayyuhal ladziina aamanuu in jaa.akum fa-siqun binabain fatabayyanuu an
> tushiibu qawman bijahaalatin fatushbihuu 'alaa maa fa'altum naadimi-n (s. al
> hujuraat, 49:6), O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you
> with a news, verify it, lest you harm people in ignorance, and afterwards
> you become regretful to what you have done. (Qur`an 49:6)
>
> Sayyid Rahmatullah Hashemi is the roving Ambassador from Afghanistan who
> recently visited the US. He has been active in giving lectures on the real
> situation regarding the Taliban in Afghanistan throughout Central and
> Southern California. The following is the transcribed lecture given by
> Sayyid Rahmatullah Hashemi at the University Of Southern California on March
> 10, 2001.
>
> Sayyid Rahmatullah Hashemi:
> I was just coming from [a meeting with] a group of scholars, and the first
> thing we started with there was the statues. And the first thing we started
> with here was also the statues. It's very unfortunate how little we see and
> how little we know. And it really confuses me, if people really know that
> little or not. Nobody has seen the problems of Afghanistan; nobody saw their
> problems before. And the only thing that represents Afghanistan today are
> the statues.
>
> The problems of Afghanistan are not new. As you know, Afghanistan is called
> The Crossroads of Asia. We are suffering because of our geo-strategic
> location. We have suffered in the 18th century, 19th century - and we are
> still suffering in this century.
>
> We have not attacked the British. We have not attacked the Russians. It was
> they who attacked us. So the problems in Afghanistan you see are not our
> creation. They reflect the image of Afghanistan to the world. If you don't
> like the image in the mirror, do not break the mirror; break your face.
>
> The problems in Afghanistan started in 1979. Afghanistan was a peaceful
> country and it was doing its own job. 140,000 Russian troops attacked
> Afghanistan in December 1979, just 21 years ago. They stayed there for a
> decade, killed one and a half million people, maimed one million more
> people, and six million out of the eighteen million people migrated because
> of Russian brutalities. Even today, our children are dying because of the
> landmines that they planted for us. And nobody knows about this.
>
> During the Russian occupation, on the other side, the American government,
> the British government, the French, the Chinese, and all the rest supported
> the counter-revolutionaries called the Mujahideen; only 7 parties in
> Pakistan and 8 parties in Iran fought the Russian occupation. And after the
> Russians left, these parties went into Afghanistan. All of them had
> different ideologies and a lot of weapons. And instead of having a single
> administration, they fought in Afghanistan.
>
> The destruction that they brought was worse than the destruction the
> Russians brought. 63,000 people were killed in just the capital, Kabul.
> Seeing all this chaos and the complete destruction of our country - after
> the Soviets left, another million people migrated because of the lawlessness
> that existed amongst Afghanistan's 7 million people.
>
> Seeing this destruction and lawlessness, a group of students called the
> Taliban - Taliban is the plural word of students in our language; it may be
> two students in Arabic, but in our language it means students so a group of
> students started a movement called the Movement of Students. It first
> started in a village in the southern province of Afghanistan, called
> Kandahar. It happened when a war-lord, or a commander abducted two minor
> girls, raped them. The parents of those girls went to a school and asked the
> teacher of the school to help them. Mullah Muhammad Umar the teacher of that
> school, along with his 53 students, with only 16 guns, attacked the base of
> that commander. After releasing those two girls, they hanged the commander,
> and many of the commander's people were also hanged.
>
> This story was told everywhere; and this was called the terrorist story of
> the Taliban, or the Students. BBC quoted this story. Hearing this story,
> many other students joined this movement and started disarming the rest of
> the warlords, who were worse than these. I will not prolong this story so
> far, these same students movement controls 95% of the country; they captured
> the capital, including the four major cities. And only a bunch of those
> warlords are remaining in the northern corridor of Afghanistan.
>
> So our achievements are as follows. We are in a government for only five
> years, and the following things that we have done, and many of you may not
> know:
>
> So the first thing we have done, begun [to give] to the people is a secure
> and peaceful life. The second major thing that we have restored is to give
> them free and fair justice; you don't have to buy justice, unlike here. You
> will have justice freely. And you have criticized us for violating women's
> rights; now, who knows what happened before us. Only some symbolic schools,
> or symbolic posts were given to some women in the ministry, and that was
> called the restoration of women's rights. I can see some Afghans living
> here, and they will agree with me, that in the rural areas of Afghanistan,
> women were used as animals. They were SOLD actually. The first thing we have
> done is to give the self-determination to women, and it happened not in the
> history of Afghanistan. Throughout the history of Afghanistan, during all
> the so-called civilized kings or whatever, they didn't give this right to
> women, so women were sold! They didn't have the right to select their
> husbands, or to reject their husbands. First thing we have done is to let
> them choose their future. And you will know that throughout south Asia,
> women are killed under the title of honor killings. It happens when a
> woman's relation is detected with a man, whether or not the relation was
> sexual, they're both killed. But now this is not happening in our country.
> And the third thing that happened only in Afghanistan, was women were
> exchanged as gifts; this was not something religious; this was something
> cultural. When two tribal tribes were fighting among themselves, then in
> order to get their tribal issue reconciliated, they would exchange women,
> and then [they] would make, or announce reconciliation. And this has been
> stopped.
>
> If we [had to give] fundamental rights of woman, we had to start from zero;
> we couldn t jump in the middle. Now you've asked me about the rights of
> women's education and the rights of women's work. Unlike what is said here,
> women do work in Afghanistan. You're right that until 1997 I mean, in 1996
> when we captured the capitol Kabul, we did ask women to stay home. It didn't
> mean that we wanted them to stay at home forever, but nobody listened to us.
> We said that there is no law, and there is no order, and have to stay at
> home. They were raped before us, everyday. So, after we disarmed the people,
> and after we brought law and order, and now women are working. You are right
> that women are not working in the ministry of defense, like here. We don't
> want our women to be fighter pilot[s], or to be used as objects of
> decoration for advertisements. But they do work. They work in the Ministry
> of Health, Interior, Ministry of Education, Ministry of Social Affairs, and
> so on. So, and we don't have any problem with women's education. We have
> said that we want education, and we will have education whether or not we
> are under anybody's pressure, because that is part of our belief. We are
> ordered to do that.
>
> When we say that there should be segregated schools, it does not mean that
> we don't want our women to be educated. It is true that we are against
> co-education; but it is not true that we are against women's education. We
> do have schools even now, but the problem is the resources. We cannot expand
> these programs. Before, our government there were numerous curriculums that
> were going on; there were curriculums which preached the king for the kings,
> and there were curriculums which preached for the communists, and there were
> curriculums from all these seven parties [the previously mentioned]. So, the
> Students were confused as to what to study, and the first we have done today
> is to unify that curriculum, and that's going on. But we are criticized, and
> we say that instead of criticism, if you just help us once, that will make a
> difference. Because criticism will not make a difference.
>
> If you criticise from New York, thousands of miles away, we don't care. But
> if you come there and help us, we do care. Actually there are more girls
> students studying in the faculty of medical sciences than boys are. This is
> not me who is saying this, it is the United Nations who has announced this.
> Recently we reopened the faculty of medical science in all major cities of
> Afghanistan and in Kandahar, there are more girl students than boys! But
> they are segregated. And the Swedish committees have also established
> schools for girls. I know they are not enough, but that's what we can do.
> So, that is what I say that we have restored. I don't say we are 100%
> perfect, and nobody will say that they are 100% perfect. We do have
> shortcomings, and we do need to amend our policies. But we can t do
> everything over night.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <kmjp47@indosat.net.id <kmjp47%40indosat.net.id>>
> To: <wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com <wanita-muslimah%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 08:54
> Subject: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Perang, Damai, dan Perempuan
>
> Begitu simpel? Apakah kalau Taliban kembali menguasai Afganistan nasib
> perempuan di san akan jadilebih bagus?
> Biarkan Afgan mengatur dirinya sendiri, tetapi Afgan yang mana? Sepanjang
> yang menentukan kaum laki-laki, nasib
> perempuan ya akan sama saja. Itu inti dari keluhan Ann Jones.
> KM
>
> ----Original Message----
> From: linadahlan@yahoo.com <linadahlan%40yahoo.com>
> Date: 03/10/2010 7:43
> To: <wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com <wanita-muslimah%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Subj: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Perang, Damai, dan Perempuan
>
> Tentara Koalisinya cabut ajah dari Afghan dan biarkan Afghan mengatur
> dirinya sendiri. Ntu kalo Ann Jones peduli ama nasib pere di sana.
> Dimane-mane juga yang lemah yang jadi korban.
>
> http://www.antaranews.com/berita/1280125033/dokumen-
> rahasia-perang-afghanistan-bocor
>
> wassalam,
>
> --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com <wanita-muslimah%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Dwi Soegardi
> <soegardi@...> wrote:
> >
> > Wawancara dalam acara tv Democracy Now! dengan Ann
> Jones, jurnalis
> > yang meliput perang Afghanistan sejak 2001:
> >
> > ...... war is a guy thing. Men fight with each other.
> Then they sit
> > down at the table, negotiate some kind of power sharing
> agreement, and
> > go on jockeying for that power relationship as they rule
> the country.
> > But all the while, they go on raping, murdering,
> displacing women and
> > children, so that when men end war and say, "Now we have
> peace," war
> > is not over for women. The war against women goes on, to
> such an
> > extent that today, if you look at the demographics, we
> are short 60
> > million women in this world who have been killed and
> lost in war. (Ann
> > Jones, "War Is Not Over When It's Over: Women Speak Out
> from the Ruins
> > of War.")
> >
> > Working with the International Rescue Committee, we gave
> digital
> > cameras to women and asked them to photograph the
> blessings and the
> > problems in their lives. It was really a project to
> encourage them to
> > begin to articulate their own situation and speak up in
> their own
> > villages and communities on behalf of their own
> interests. And the
> > women were amazing. They did fantastic work. They spoke
> up very loudly
> > in their own interests.
> >
> > And what they gave us, really, was blueprints for peace.
> What they
> > addressed were the problems of getting safe water,
> getting safe access
> > to their fields to work, getting education for their
> children, getting
> > healthcare, getting places for community members to
> meet. In other
> > words, the women are concerned about the future of their
> families and
> > their communities living a peaceful life. And this, it
> seemed to me,
> > was such important support for what the UN has been
> saying for a
> > decade now, that you will not get durable peace anywhere
> in the world
> > in the aftermath of conflict unless women are involved
> every step of
> > the way. And that's exactly what we are not seeing in
> Afghanistan
> > today.
> > (Ann Jones, "War Is Not Over When It's Over: Women Speak
> Out from the
> > Ruins of War.")
> >
> > Dua hal tentang perang (dalam kasus ini perang
> Afghanistan)
> > 1. laki-laki berperang, perempuan jadi korban. Ketika
> laki-laki
> > berhenti bertikai dan duduk di meja perundingan,
> > perang terhadap perempuan tidak ikut berakhir.
> Penderitaan mereka
> > berlanjut dan mereka tidak pernah diajak untuk
> mengupayakan
> > perdamaian.
> >
> > 2. ketika perempuan diberi kesempatan untuk bertindak,
> mereka
> > melakukan hal-hal luar biasa:
> > - pengadaan air bersih, pembuatan jalan ke sawah/ladang,
> pendidikan
> > anak, kesehatan, hingga sarana untuk pertemuan
> masyarakat ........
> >
> > Masihkah soal Perang dan Damai dipercayakan kepada laki-
> laki?
> >
> > Baca lengkapnya (atau lihat videonya) di
> > http://www.democracynow.
>
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>
>
>

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