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Sunday 30 October 2011

Re: [wanita-muslimah] What Libya has inherited from Moammar Gaddafi

 

Kalau tak salah ingat Belhaj ini ditangkap di Afghanistan dan dibawa ke
Guantanao, lalu dilepas dan Lybia bersedia menerimanya dengan sayarat
dipenjarakan di Libya.

-----Original Message-----
From: Donnie
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 9:38 AM
To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [wanita-muslimah] What Libya has inherited from Moammar Gaddafi

Facts can't also be denied:
1. Gadafy memerangi Al Qaeda
2. Banyak aktifis Islam (termasuk LIFG) yang dipenjara bahkan dibunuh oleh
Gadafy, termasuk Abdel Hakim Belhadj yang memimpin brigade Tripoli yang
memenangkan Tripoli
3. Gadafy bekerja sama dengan CIA dan MI6 dalam memerangi Al Qaeda dan
melakukan penyiksaan terhadap aktivis Islam (termasuk Belhadj)
4. AQIM menyatakan mendukung pemberontakan rakyat Libya

:D

On Oct 28, 2011, at 11:26 PM, H. M. Nur Abdurrahman wrote:

> Anne Applebaum wrote:
> The country produces nothing except oil, and none of the profits from that
> oil seem to have trickled down to anybody. Some 60 percent of the
> population works for the government, but they receive very low salaries -
> a few hundred dollars a month - in exchange. There is hardly any
> infrastructure, outside of a few roads. There is hardly any social life,
> since so many young people were too poor to marry. There wouldn't be any
> public spaces to enjoy social life even if it existed: Trash is scattered
> along the undeveloped beaches, and old plastic bags blow back and forth
> across weed-clogged city parks.
> ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
> HMNA:
> FACTS THAT CANT BE DENIED
> 1. There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its
> citizens.
> 2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans
> given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.
> 3. Home considered a human right in Libya - Gaddafi vowed that his parents
> would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi's father
> has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent.
> 4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$ 50,000 ) by the
> government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.
> 5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only
> 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%.
> 6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive
> farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-
> start their farms - all for free.
> 7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in
> Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it - not only free but
> they get US $2, 300/mth accommodation and car allowance.
> 8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the
> price.
> 9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0. 14 per liter.
> 10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion -
> now frozen globally.
> 11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state
> would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed
> until employment is found.
> 12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank
> accounts of all Libyan citizens.
> 13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US $5 ,000
> 14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15
> 15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree
> 16. Gaddafi carried out the world's largest irrigation project, known as
> the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available
> throughout the desert country
> ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sunny
> To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 11:54 PM
> Subject: [wanita-muslimah] What Libya has inherited from Moammar Gaddafi
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/what-libya-has-inherited-from-moammar-gaddafi/2011/10/27/gIQA47ahMM_story.html?wpisrc=nl_politics
>
> Anne Applebaum
> Opinion Writer
> What Libya has inherited from Moammar Gaddafi
> By Anne Applebaum, Published: October 27
> BENGHAZI, Libya
>
> Young men in fatigues hang around outside the offices of the Transitional
> National Council, carrying rifles and flashing V (for victory) signs at
> visitors. Inside, older men in leather jackets sit on sofas drinking tea,
> while temporary officials cope with clashing appointments and race up and
> down the hallways. It's just how one imagines the Smolny Institute,
> Lenin's St. Petersburg headquarters, in 1917: amateur, enthusiastic,
> disorganized, rumor-filled and slightly paranoid, all at once. In Smolny,
> though, there were no ringing cellphones to add to the general cacophony.
>
> More on this Topic
> a.. Krauthammer: Libyan 'crossfire'
> b.. Donilon: Why we need a strong NATO
> c.. Applebaum: Libya's inheritance from Gaddafi
> d.. Editorial: In Libya, 'now the hard part begins'
> And at least the Russian revolutionaries were operating within what had
> been a functioning society. By contrast, Libya's late dictator, Moammar
> Gaddafi, has left an unprecedented, even weird, vacuum in his wake.
> Post-revolutionary Libya is truly a desert, not only in the geographic
> sense but in the political, economic, even psychological senses too.
>
> Look, by contrast, at Libya's post-revolutionary neighbors. Egypt has a
> sophisticated economy, a middle class, foreign investors and an enormous
> tourist industry, not to mention a long history of financial interactions
> with the rest of the world. Tunisia has a highly educated and articulate
> population, which has long been exposed to French media and political
> ideas. More than 90 percent of Tunisians voted in the country's first free
> elections last weekend. Outside observers proclaimed the voting impeccably
> fair.
>
> Libya, by contrast, has neither a sophisticated economy nor an articulate
> population, nor any political experience whatsoever. There were no
> political parties under Gaddafi, not even fake, government-controlled
> political parties. There were no media, nor even reliable information, to
> speak of. Libyan journalists were the most heavily controlled in the Arab
> world, hardly anyone has Internet access,and there is no tradition of
> investigative reporting.
>
> During four decades in power, Gaddafi destroyed the army, the civil
> service and the educational system. The country produces nothing except
> oil, and none of the profits from that oil seem to have trickled down to
> anybody. Some 60 percent of the population works for the government, but
> they receive very low salaries - a few hundred dollars a month - in
> exchange. There is hardly any infrastructure, outside of a few roads.
> There is hardly any social life, since so many young people were too poor
> to marry. There wouldn't be any public spaces to enjoy social life even if
> it existed: Trash is scattered along the undeveloped beaches, and old
> plastic bags blow back and forth across weed-clogged city parks.
>
> Nature abhors a vacuum, and of course, in the absence of an army, militias
> may step into the breach: At the moment, some 27 of them, from cities all
> over Libya, have taken up residence in Tripoli compounds and spray-painted
> their names on the barricades. In the absence of regulatory bodies,
> newborn newspapers may well fall into the hands of business and political
> groups with foreign or old-regime connections too. When I met the deputy
> chairman of the TNC, Abdel Hafiz Ghoga, we discussed another "Russian"
> scenario: Newspapers start out enthusiastic and free, as they did in
> Moscow in the 1990s, but are gradually bought up by business
> conglomerates - until eventually they return to government control. The
> same fate could await new political parties.
>
> And yet Libya's unprecedented vacuum also offers unprecedented
> opportunities. One Libyan journalist - the editor of a brand-new magazine,
> which he has personally financed and staffed with volunteers - points out
> that none of his journalists ever learned to write regime propaganda, and
> all of them are therefore committed to telling "the truth." The
> nonexistent economy and the absence of political institutions also means
> that there aren't any entrenched interests that will set themselves
> against change, as they have done in Egypt. There aren't even any
> well-organized Islamists, as there are in Tunisia.
>
> On top of all that, Libya has the largest oil reserves in Africa, and -
> depending on who is counting - some $250 billion in foreign currency
> reserves. Much of the money Gaddafi never spent on his people is now
> sitting in the bank. In fact, I can't think of another group of
> revolutionaries, at any time in history, who found themselves in quite
> such a fortunate situation. Usually, revolutions are born out of national
> bankruptcy. The first task of a new regime is to fill the state's coffers.
> The second task is to tear down the institutions of the old regime.
> Libya's task - how to spend its money wisely, and how to build new
> institutions from scratch - is both easier than anyone else's and harder
> at the same time. And no, I'm not going to predict what will happen next.
>
> applebaumletters@washpost.com
>
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