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From: "H. M. Nur Abdurahman" <mnur.abdurrahman@yahoo.co.id>
Sender: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:09:05
To: <wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: DONI DAMANA- MAS ARIMASARCONABU BAKAR BA'ASYIR - Hadirilah!! Seminar Mengungkap Rekayasa Global Amerika di Balik
Chief of Army General Ryamizard Riyacudu said until right now TNI have no make atomic bomb, Napalm bomb, micro nuclear bomb and same type others yet. That bomb blasted in Bali is made in over sea, and no made Indonesian people. Bomb by great blasted like that is imposible to made in Indonesia.
For proofing the statement they launch TNT bomb demonstration (TNT bomb made in PT. Pindad in Cibodas, on last October 2002. By preparing of 2 kg TNT bomb, and 2 meters from it layed 2 bottles benzene and the other side found wood shelter. TNT bomb blasting, and emergence the loud sound including earth vibrate, trees and many plants surounded have damaged. But really, 2 bottles of benzene and the shelter still erect in the places on properly, no burning. The test and trial undertaken by Zenith Study Center of Indonesia National Arm, lead by Col. Puguh Santoso (Mr). The outspoken of Army about limitation of PT. Pindad actually very regretted, because the secret of capability have been open and will knowing by opponent party.
Statement Riyacudu tsb di atas tidak mesti punya gelar ilmu pengetahuan. Sebelum dia bikin statement sebagai manager tentu minta nasihat / pandangan dari para stafnya yang tentunya punya gelar ilmu pengetahuan dalam bidangnya masing-masing. Lagi pula dia pertunjukkan bagaimana efek bom yang made in Indonesia.
Contoh yang lebih mudah, SBY tidak jarang pidato / bicara tentang hukum, dia tidak perlu menyandang gelar ilmu hukum, karena diakan punya penasihat hukum. Begitu nyong.
Salam
HMNA
----- Original Message -----
From: "sunny" <ambon@tele2.se>
To: <wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 15:51
Subject: Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: DONI DAMANA- MAS ARIMASARCONABU BAKAR BA'ASYIR - Hadirilah!! Seminar Mengungkap Rekayasa Global Amerika di Balik
Pak HMNA
Anda tentu maklum bahwa (khusus) pangkat jenderal di AD TNI bukan gelar ilmu pengetahuan.
Salah satu contoh yang bagus ialah Pak Harto. Zaman KNIL sebelum perang pangkatnya sersan, zaman pendudukan Jepang diberi pangkat kapten, zaman RI bergolak diberi kolonel, zaman RI merdeka dinaikan menjadi jenderal.
Pangkat di militer khusus di AD adalah pangkat PNS, tiap "x" tahun naik. Pada zaman Pak Harto ada salah suatu dasar yang dipakai yaitu tugas di Timor Timur, semua yang bertugas di Timor Timur cepat naik pangkat dari kapten bisa cepat menjadi jenderal.
Ini ada sedikit info yang agak lain : http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2008/02/use-of-militant-moslems-in-russia-china.html
"The airline manifest of Garuda airlines shows that at least two generals from Jakarta visited Bali three days before the bombings and that they returned to Jakarta one day before the Sari Club was blown up. This was confirmed by armed forces chief General Sutarto, who claimed that General Djaja Suparman was on vacation, while General Ryamizard Riyacudu, chief of staff, was said to have gone to Bali for health reasons. (Jakarta Post) "
General Ryamizard Riyacudu.
Date of Birth: 21 April 1950
Place of Birth: Palembang
Relevant Profile:
1974 - Military Academy, Magelang
Received On-The-Job Training in Australia during his career.
1974 - Participated in counter-insurgency operations against civilians, primarily villagers, in Kalimantan as part of Infantry Battalion 641.
1991 - Commander, Infantry Battalion 305 under Brigade Linud 17 Kostrad.
1992 - Commanded the 12th Garuda Contingent B, in Kompong Thom, Cambodia.
1994 - Commander, Sector A, East Timor, when attacks against civilians were common.
2001 - Chief of the Indonesian Army when Papuan leader Theys Eluay was strangled to death Indonesian soldiers. Ryacudu endorsed the assassination, stating that the soldiers "are heroes because the person they killed was a rebel leader".
Wassalam
----- Original Message -----
From: H. M. Nur Abdurahman
To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:17 AM
Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: DONI DAMANA- MAS ARIMASARCONABU BAKAR BA'ASYIR - Hadirilah!! Seminar Mengungkap Rekayasa Global Amerika di Balik
Kalau Joe Vialls ben Menashe informasinya tidak ilmiyah, ok-lah, ttapi bagaimana dengan pernyataan Chief Commander of Indonesia Army General Ryamizard Riyacudu said: "I am sure that bomb blasted in Bali is made in over sea, and no made Indonesian people. Bomb by great blasted like that is imposible to made in Indonesia, it is sure foreign made" it statement passed after he give briefing to the Red Beret Army (Kopassus) and Brigade Infantry 413 Army Strategic Command in the Kopassus barracks Group 2, Kandang Menjangan, Solo, Central Java on November 12, 2002.
Semestinya Ryamizard Riyacudu diajukan sebagai saksi dalam persidangan para terdakwa Bom Bali I. Jadi sampai kini Bom Bali I masih tetap kontroversial.
Salam
HMNA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Waluya" <waluya2006@gmail.com>
To: <wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 23:06
Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: DONI DAMANA- MAS ARIMASARCONABU BAKAR BA'ASYIR - Hadirilah!! Seminar Mengungkap Rekayasa Global Amerika di Balik Penangkapan Beliau
>> "H. M. Nur Abdurahman" <mnur.abdurrahman@...> wrote:
>> Bukankah judulnya Kontroversi Bom Bali I ?
>
> Kalau menurut saya mah, kontroversi Bom Bali I sudah lama selesai, terutama sangkaan bahwa bom bali I itu bom nuklir, tidak usah diperdebatkan lagi, karena cuma membodohi diri sendiri saja. Joe Vialls jelas cuma cari sensasi saja, bukankan dia juga yang bilang gempa dan tsunami di Aceh itu juga gara-gara nuklir?
>
> Kebetulan saya menemukan berita lama di tahun 2002 hasil Googling. Salah seorang ahli Nuklir Batan juga berpendapat tidak jauh dengan saya, Joe Vialls itu tidak tahu Fisika Nuklir, dia hanya menggunakan istilah istilah nuklir biar dipercaya oleh orang awam. Dibawah ini beritanya, yang sayangnya tidak banyak dikutip oleh media pada saat itu:
>
>
> Analisa Dugaan Bom Bali Adalah Mikro Nuklir Tidak Ilmiah
>
> (Sinar Iindonesia Baru, Minggu, 03 Nopember 2002)
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